Small Business Stuff Chat about SMME issues

15Feb/108

Paypal in SA – Will it Work ?

After a series of careful leaks it looks like we will have our own SA PayPal portal operated by FNB - "PayPal - operated locally by FNB".  A bit like "British Airways - operated locally by Comair".

SMME business will then be able to transact locally and internationally in Rand and remit the proceeds back to a local bank account.  Oddly enough for a system developed by a Saffer, we won't oficially be able to do that until PayPal is formally launched in SA.

It makes sense for PayPal to partner with a local bank.  They can then transact under the FNB tree without going through the rigour, cost  and formality of becoming a bona-fide SA deposit taking bank, an activity that doesn't sit well with their international profile.  If it a sucess we can expect other portal and bank associations to follow.

What does it mean for SA SMME businesses ? My reading indicates that it will be warmly welcomed as a way of allowing us to transact internationally and remit cash back into SA easily and directly.

However, PayPal in SA will be a bit like the curate’s egg – good in parts. Of course it all depends on the arrangements, but since at least two SA banks are involved I expect there to be a sting or three in the tail.

It will be welcomed by the Government who will see it as a shot in the arm for an  ailing and malnourished business sector, and at no cost to them.  It will be welcomed by SARS, who see it as bringing curently invisible SA businesses operating and holding cash off-shore under their microscope and available for rape and pillage in the name of taxation.

Internal SA to SA trade in rand will be simple and easy, except there will be fees for withdrawing cash from the Paypal account into your SA FNB bank account. If you have an overseas purchaser buying your stuff and paying in foreign currency, then you will be stiffed on the exchange rate, plus additional fees for FNB carrying out the conversion when it hits your SA PayPal account.

The next issue is that of rand purchases from overseas merchants. Firstly, will the Reserve Bank allow it using a SA Paypal account? Under current forex regulations for personal purchases, no, or at least only up to a certain amount.  All other business transactions will probably continue to need hoboes of documentation and approvals.  If so, that throws the instant nature of Internet commerce and the need for a local PayPal portal out with the bath water.

There may be an announcement removing or easing exchange control in the Budget in March, but there may not.  Perhaps that is what PayPal and FNB are waiting for.

Next our beloved SARS. If you have money coming into your bank account from a SA or non-SA Paypal account,  they will want to know how it arises and decide that you need to pay income tax on it.  If you buy overseas and import stuff, even electronically, there are duties and levies, principally ad-valorem duties and VAT, and SARS will want their cut.

FNB will have reporting requirements to SARS, so it will be difficult to continue to avoid income tax, duties and levies on electronic transactions as many people do now.

Most of those SMME businesses affected will be online businesses selling products, perhaps electronic stuff, software, ebooks, videos and so-on.   Their market is worldwide, and so is the competition. The differentiator between the SA business and someone elsewhere is the ease of completing the purchase, and of course the price.

PayPal will certainly help with completing the purchase by offering a trusted and well known world-wide payment portal.  Where I am not so sure are the costs associated with using it.  Fees need to be factored into sales prices, and that is where the whole thing might come crashing down.

SMEs need to recover the PayPal and bank charges and if these make the product cost too high, customers will move to another site that offers the same or equivalent stuff for less.  Unless PAyPal and FNB are very careful with pricing, the per-transaction costs may be too much for a small business to bear.

A second cost will be the additional adminstrative burden of compliance.   SMME businesses will need to prepare and submit Forex and VAT returns, paperwork to support overseas sales and purchases, and any other SARS and bank inspired bureaucracy. Annual returns and accounts to SARS are another issue altogether.

Most small SME entrepreneurs won’t have the skills and indeed the time to do all this.  They will therefore need a new or upgraded bookeeping service, an additional cost to the business.

Again SMMEs will need to think about the implications of that in margins and product pricing before rushing off to sign up.

So, while it may well be “A Good Thing”, I am waiting to read the fine print very carefully. If a bank is involved, you can bet your bottom dollar (if you still have one) that they are in it to make money, not as a benevolent gesture to you.

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  1. Iain, this is good news! Yes there will be a commission paybale to the bank, but it is something South Africa needs, the other PAY PAL-type options currently available in south africa leave you with littl after all the bank charges and commission claims! I hope it all come to pass soon!

  2. It will be good for South Africa.

  3. Jennie, commission yes, gouging no. There is a fine line between FNB/Paypal offering us a reasonable cost mechanism to increase sales, and preventing us offering goods and services by high transaction costs.

    The margin on our products must first be positive, and second, provide a suitable rate of return on our investment. Because of lower overheads and higher volumes, the margin for online sales can be much lower than that of the traditional bricks and mortar retailers.

    However, if someone elsewhere has a cheaper widget because our FNB/Paypal costs are significantly higher than their Paypal costs, then we must use a different and cheaper portal, or understand that we won’t make many widget sales. Customers are fickle, and if they can buy the widget cheaper somewhere else, that is what they will do.

    Unfortunately our SA banks don’t seem to understand the WalMart concept of “pile them high and sell them cheap”.

  4. Good idea but either way we get bullied by the banks – suggestion, do it the way you have always done – show me the deposit slip and the goods can leave my store!

  5. Unfortunately becaue of habit and until recently lack of alternatives, most banks have us by the short and curlies. They are a fact of life, like death and taxes. As Richard Branson says, they are like people, unfortunately not bright ones. They are not your friends, despite their advertising, and most definitely are not charities. As I said they are in the Paypal environment because they smell a bucket load or two of cash can be made and their traditional retail market is declining.

    If you intend to trade online and bring the cash back to SA, they are only a few alternatives. The Reserve Bank doesn’t mind cash coming in, but if you need to spend it outside SA to make it come back in, they are very leery about your doing that, and you have some pretty onerous and time consuming paperwork to fill in.

    SARS are also very concerned about two things, arms length trading for one, and VAT avoidance on electronic purchases for another.

    In arms-length trading, lets say that you have a Clickbank account, a website hosted in Greenland, and a bank account in the Caymans. You sell electronic stuff via your website, the cash goes into your Clickbank account, and from there to the Caymans. There is no evidence in SA of any of that activity, but under tax law, you should be paying income tax on the money in your Clickbank account.

    From time to time you purchase and download DVDs, ebooks and software from overseas websites. Because it is a download, you don’t pay VAT or any ad-valorem duty on the purchase, as you would have been required to do if you had bought the stuff at a shop or as a physical import. SARS don’t like that.

    That is why I think they will embrace an SA version of Paypal. There is one single point they can check up on, the interface between Paypal and your bank account. Much easier for them.

    But there are ways around it.

    There are sites like 2Checkout.com, a Clickbank lookalike that will provide an overseas Master Card which you can use here or overseas. Basically, you can transfer cash from your 2Checkout Merchant account to the mastercard account, and the cash is immediately available to you anywhere that has ATMs that accept Mastercard withdrawals.

    So you don’t actually need a bank for online trading. They just like you to think that you do.

    Search the Internet for alternatives. There are many, some cellphone based, some Internet based. Not mature yet, but getting there and frightening the bejasus out of retail banks worldwide.

  6. Interesting article, where is your source/ where did you read it from?

  7. The original information was on Twitter, apparently from a “senior FNB source”. Further information came from IT Web, IT Online as the rumour developed.

    The analysis is mine.

  8. Hot off the press – FNB have hired the J’Burg Turbine Hall on the 25Th March for a joint event with PayPal. The subject matter has not been disclosed, so it might not be a launch.

    The other rumour is that FNB want to link the eBucks system, the online currency that thinks it’s a loyalty programme, with PayPal. And all before we turn into Blatterland in June.

    Keep you posted.


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